17 FBIS WEU 90 019 29 January 1990 PORTUGAL represent the entire opinion of the Angolans. This is my belief. There are other Angolans who could form other political parties tomorrow. Moniz) In his New Year address President Eduardo dos Santos clearly speaks of the constitution of associations and other types of organizations in which citizens could intervene. Savimbi Associations controlled by a political party do noi represent anything. Moniz Therefore, you would noi accept dissolving UNITA within the MPLA to develop political activity within the MPLA. Savimbi) would not accept it, neither would my colleagues. We have a very different viewpoint. If the MPLA, which has been in power for 15 years, wins the elections, let it allow political opposition from UNITA and other forces. The same would occur if UNITA were to win. But to reduce the political opinion of other Angolan forces to associations, would be (word indistinct. Moniz Dr Savimbi, you are talking a lot about a multiparty system. However, there are those in UNITA who accuse you of undemocratic behavior, of being a clear autocrat. Savimbi No. This is propaganda. passage omitted. Moniz But some UNITA dissidents say this. Savimbi There are no dissidents. There are students.
The students do not know what the party political life is. passage omitted Moniz Jonas Savimbi, what plan do you see for the peace process. Savimbi Gbadolite is a formula. We think that it is still valid. However, we think that there are other possibilities. passage omitted Moniz You will not under any conditions accept the princple of an amnesty for UNITA members. Savimbi) Why should we be amnestied? We have not committed any crimes. We have fought. We are still fighitng. We. fought) the Cubans. We had the patriotic duty to fight the Cubans. sentence indistinct) But we should talk to put an end to the war, to create conditions for peace. passage omitted. Moniz) The cease fire problem basically lies with Dr Savimbi. Because without you, an agreement would have been possible. Savimbi That is not true. passage indistinct Moniz) How do you interpret the fact that some Angolan citizens who were formerly MPLA dissidents are apparently preparing to return 10 Luanda. Savimbi That is very good. will never oppose Angolans returning to Angola. Moniz But this means that people opposing the MPLA are in agreement with the MPLA present strategy. It is understood that they accept the MPLA is changing its strategy and welcome this. Savimbi) We shall see whether this happens in practice. Moniz Regarding Portugal, how do you see future relations with Angola. Savimbi) think that Portugal has a very important role not only today, but tomorrow. We need peace to see how we will develop our political and economic relations. passage omitted) Portugal could first help to explain the problem of Angola to other African and European countries, particularly Portuguese speaking countries of Africa. Portugal can help toward a rapprochement between UNITA and MPLA viewpoints. Portugal could also help this African mediation. What is needed is for Portugal to play a political and active role now in pursuit of peace, so that tomorrow, in a peaceful and democratic country, Portugal. can be a guest. Moniz have a very strange and contradictory fact from the past before me. Dr Savimbi, you say that it is necessary for the Portuguese to return to Angola, but you also took Portuguese hostages. Savimbi) Not Portuguese. Whenever there were Portuguese in any positions, we never attacked. But the first gesture we made many years ago to all foreigners working in Angola was not to capture or bring any Portuguese to Jamba under any condition. Whenever we found Portuguese at the bases, the towns we attacked, we asked the Portuguese to decide whether they would stay or come with us. Whenever they came, we released them unconditionally. Moniz) One last question. Dr Savimbi. Are you ready to once more shake hands with Jose Eduardo dos Santos. Savimbi The Gbadolite handshake was very good because did not know him personally. am ready not only to shake hands once more with President Eduardo dos Santos, but to go much further, because shaking hands creates expectations among the people. It gives rise to hope. And if things are confined to hand shaking we will both be accused of being obstacles to the attainment of peace and democracy in the country. Moniz) Dr Savimbi, thank you for coming here this evening. passage omitted)
Proposes Transition Government LD2901045890 Lisbon Radio Renascenca in Portuguese 1800 GMT 28 Jan 90 Text (Announcer At a meeting this morning with newspaper directors, Jonas Savimbi made the suggestion, which he said was on a personal basis, that Dr Joaquim Pinto de Andrade a prominent lay member of the Angolan Catholic Church and president of Caritaswould be a suitable prime minister of a possible Angolan transitional government.
We have already obtained a reply from Joaquim Pinto de Andrade, who spoke to us a short while ago. Begin de Andrade recording) This comes as a surprise to me. was not aware of such a statement by the UNITA (National Union for the Total Independence of Angola)
leader. Obviously, as a political leader and an Angolan